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Blue Point Bible Church in Blue Point New York has recently called Michael Miano to be its new pastor. So??? Well, Miano is a full preterist. This means he believes and teaches that Jesus already came back. You might think this kind of belief would rock this church which has been in existence since the 1800s. But Blue Point was already an unabashed fulfilled eschatologyⁱ congregation.

Miano won't have many knocks in the congregation with his eschatology but I thought it would be interesting to hear how Miano plans to successfully grow this congregation. After all, many "big name" full preterists have attempted to pastor churches but have failed or had less than ideal results.

So, whether you agree or disagree with full preterism, listen to how Miano plans to try to do something practical in this congregation.

What if God's plan was for His people only? What if God's plan was to save only the Elect and the Elect were only the "sons of Abraham"? And what if the Gentiles who were to be "brought in" were merely the wayward "Jews" such as the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4:7-9.

How would this affect you?

A man who goes by the name "RiversOfEden" discusses this possibility during this 70 minute podcast

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In this 70 minute podcast, we speak with Michael Miano from freakedoutmovement.com. Miano has the interesting background of having been a gang member and having spent some time in prison.

We discuss his life before and after Christianity and his eventual adoption of the theological perspective called Full Preterismⁱ. He recently debated ex-Full Preterist, Sam Frost and discusses that event.

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_{*my purpose in this interview was simply to have Mr. Miano introduce himself and give a little background. It was not my purpose to "debate" anything he said.}

TKC will be starting a new podcast series. The inspiration for this new podcast series comes from a failed podcast program of the same name. Why would a failed program inspire a new podcast? The reason the previous program failed, was because first it really was NOT presenting opposing views. Most of the time, the two participants spent more time trying to advance some mediocre middle-ground. Secondly, they spent more time attacking their common enemies rather than critiquing each others view.

So, seeing how badly those participants handled what could have been a good concept, this podcast was born so that we may attempt to do it right.

The 3rd in a series of podcasts with Hyper/Full Preteristⁱ 'Rivers of Eden' often, reluctantly considered the most consistent advocate of the Hyper/Full Preterist view. Rivers of Eden (ROE), discusses how the hyperpreterist movement, and especially AD70.net has hypocritically taken actions to silence his input into the community.

Listen to this podcast as it touches on the current state within the 'preterist movement'.

LISTEN to the Podcast

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River's/ROE welcomes continued interaction.
Contact "Rivers of Eden" via email: riversofeden4@gmail.com

Ron Clancy, dedicated researcher and author shares his over 30 years of research into classic Christmas carols.  This fascinating 30 minute podcast reveals the interesting history of some of our best loved Christmas tunes.  Mr. Clancy has authored and compiled 4 collections with fully period art illustrated books and CD box collections perfect for anyone who loves history, Christmas music or art.  After listening to the podcast, take a look at Mr. Clancy's website: christmasclassics.com where you can learn more or purchase these fabulous collections for yourself or a loved one to enjoy.  Also check out the many YouTube videos Mr. Clancy has produced on the history of your favorite Christmas carol.

3 Ways to Listen:

Click on the following link to have it play on your computer's player

http://thekingdomcome.com/kingdomcommentaries/christmassong_origins.mp3

Right click the following link and SAVEAS to download to your computer or ipod.

http://thekingdomcome.com/kingdomcommentaries/christmassong_origins.mp3

Listen to it streamed on this website (good for people with slow connections)

http://thekingdomcome.com/content/kingdom_commentaries

Hyperpreterism (sometimes called Full Preterismⁱ) is a theological perspective and movement that is considered to have began in the 1970s after the rogue "church of Christ" minister named Max King published a series of books advocating the view. Basically, the view is a combination of the following claims or points:

1. Jesus came back once in for all in the first-century (AD70).
2. The collective resurrection of believers occurred in the first-century.
3. The judgment of the wicked and righteous occurred in the first-century.
4. There will be no end of sin or culmination of God's plan for the earth.

I had previously done a podcast with a Full-Hyperpreterist in June 2010, called "The Consistent Conclusions of Full/Hyperpreterism where I discussed with a hyperpreterist that goes by the name "Rivers of Eden" (ROE), the consistent conclusions of the hyperpreterist view, which is that God gathered all Elect and is thus effectively done with humanity and earth. Although I overall disagree with hyperpreterism, I agree that its consistent conclusion is that if God's plan was to gather the Elect AND we assume that happened in AD70, then there is no more to the story.

Sometimes when Christians think of the word presuppose they consider it a negative since Christians want not to presuppose or assume but rather allow the Bible to determine our beliefs. But theologically and philosophically speaking, everyone presupposes when is comes to claims or propositions. What is important is whether our presuppositions are accurate or are flawed.

In this 44 minute podcast Roderick is joined by Dr. James Anderson of the Reformed Theological Seminary as Dr. Anderson gives an introductory summation of Presuppositionalism and especially how it is articulated from the two dominant "schools"; that of the late Cornelius Van Til and Gordon Clark.

This podcast discusses what a consistent application of Full/Hyperpreterismⁱ might look like. Roderick is joined by a Full/Hyperpreterist using the Internet pseudonym, "Rivers Of Eden". Rivers has used many of the common Full/Hyperpreterist teachings to conclude that God redeemed His Elect (genetic Abrahamic offspring only) in the year AD70 and no longer has any biblically expressed plan for people on earth after AD70.

This is interesting because it claims:

"Pirate Christian Radio is an online radio station that is free from the scurvy plagues of pop-psychology, goofy fads, self-help, pietism, purpose-drivenism, the prosperity heresy, contemplative mysticism, seeker-sensitivism, liberalism, relevantism, Emergent nonsense, and the sissy girly Oprah-fied religiosity that is being passed off as "Biblical Christianity"

It's also interesting because it has a mailing address of Fishers Indiana, about 25 miles from me.

I'm going to check it out simply for the quote above. Listen to it below.

In TKC's continuing effort to bring relevant, useful material and resources that pique the interest of Christians, TKC offers another edifying podcast promoting the work of Christ in the lives of fellow Christians.

In December of 2006 TKC interviewed Charles VanderPool the Editor-in-Chief of a then fledgling Bible translation project called The Apostolic Bible Polyglot (ABP). The project and translation effort has grown tremendously over the years, all glory to God.

Every time Christians come together in a church, there is singing but why do we do it?  Is it merely to pump us up for the sermon?  And why do we sing the songs and hymns we sing?  Why do we sing the songs to the tunes we do?

Roderick Edwards, after 2 years of fighting against the heresy of hyperpreterism has left the cause.  After long being identified as the guy who fights against hyperpreterism, to the point of what some people considered obsession.  I thank God that events came about that made me see that the "new" approach to fighting hyperpreterism is really nothing but a compromise with it.

I want to apologize to hyperpreterists who may remain in that heresy longer than you may, now that even the "cause" against hyperpreterism is beginning to validate it -- you may remain in it longer, feeling it is valid.  Everyone I've known who has REALLY left hyperpreterism, not just moved to a modified verision of it, has done so by realizing the entire proposition is error.

Please listen to the 9 minute audio explaining the issue.

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http://thekingdomcome.com/kingdomcommentaries/newisold11192009.mp3

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http://thekingdomcome.com/content/kingdom_commentaries

After receiving and email request for more information on Exclusive Psalmody (singing only the psalms in worship, often without musical instruments), I decided to answer with a 10 minute podcast.  It is only a real brief introduction to the subject but includes a little historical background, scriptural background, and some basic objections.  I encourage the reader/listener to study out the topic more on their own by doing a websearch here or take a look at this webpage.

PODCAST downloadable here

Or listen to it streamed on the website here

Kingdom Commentaries Podcast was a monthly feature of thekingdomcome.com for over 2 years but this is the first one produced for 2009.  TKC Update 2009 is a summary of some projects I have going.  Listen to this 9 minute audio either via the Kingdom Commentaries podcast page or if you want to download it to your computer, ipod or mp3 device simply right click the following link and select SAVEAS.

thekingdomcome.com/kingdomcommentaries/sites/all/tkcupdate2009_mixed.mp3

SHOW NOTES:

Topics mentioned

1. Review of When Shall These Things Be?
2. PreteristBlog.com
3. Theology Today
4. Review of The Shape of Sola Scriptura
5. YouTube Videos produced by TKC
6. Radical Corruption video
7. Christian HipHop Forum (site not disclosed)
8. Multi-contributor Bible Commentary Project (in progress)
9. Commemortating John Calvin's 500th birthday

I was interviewed on the topic of hyperpreterismⁱ by Brian Simmons. Listen to the interview on the player below or other interviews from Simmons by going to http://worldofprophecy.wordpress.com

The Reformation is known for its transformative theology, wherefrom society, government, & not the least the Church was brought in line with the principles of the Bible.  But the Reformers also greatly impacted the arts.  Join us as we discuss music from the Reformation & Renaissance era with Jeremy Fowler-Lindemulder aka "Fugli".  Fugli is a musician that specializes in music of the Renaissance period, often playing on instruments from the time.  He is perhaps best known to readers of this website as the man who recorded the song, "Reformation Polka", lyrics originally written by Robert Gebel.

This 30 minute discussion is very informative both in enlightening the listener to how the Reformation & Renaissance affected music & how Christians to the present day commemorate Reformation Sunday.  Stay tuned after the discussion for two songs by Fugli:

• Bethlehem Tonight
  
• One Sheep

Click the link below to listen or right click the link & SAVEAS to save to your computer

(if you have problems listening directly, please use the alternate links below)

Alternate places to listen -- STREAMING AUDIO

• Kingdom Commentaries Page
• Feed Burner

Fugli has several albums you may be interested in purchasing.  Please visit his website at:

http://povera.com/

(music page: http://povera.topcities.com/music/index.html)

To view the "Reformation Polka" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU0f_qJLkLg

Explanation of the "Reformation Polka": http://thekingdomcome.com/explaining_refpolka

Reformation Polka Tab (by Fugli): http://thekingdomcome.com/kingdomcommentaries/1_refpolka_tab.txt

Link to various Ren Fests: http://www.faires.com/location.php

* Intro music, excerpt from Fugli's Dance of the Woodland Faeries

Does God just know things ahead of time?  Does He just allow things or does God actually delcare & plan ALL things that happen?  This is a foundational question for every Christian.  What you answer to these questions determines what you think about the character & nature of God Himself & in turn affects every other thing you believe about God's motive, including His love.

Many Christians will say God is "Sovereign" or completely in control yet when that belief is pushed into every facet of God's nature, they may recoil.  It repulses us to think that God is even in control over the most heinous activities that occur.  This do NOT mean God is responsible for the activities.

UPDATE:  See the 6 part YOUTUBE version of this discussion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsl91I2wqMQ